Too many people dont preach the truth and that is the reason why at the end very few make it.
Christ HIMSELF said that He was there only to save the lost sheep of the 12 tribes of Israel.
Jacob had 130 children or so.
There were also other people born.the 12 tribes come only from Jacobs 1st 10 children and 2 grandchildren.So not being of that blood probably makes an individual a 10,000 to 1 chance against being in the 12 tribes.

So therefore most people are behind the 8 ball already.
So if you are not even of Christs family you are like the woman from canaan who Jesus said to eat the scraps.She had great faith.
So you need very good faith.people preach 'love jesus and you go to heaven"WHERE!!!!! does it say that?
The fact is most people do NOT do the works of Jesus.they profess His name but not His works.The end of days is near and you need to repent.
Foregt the false teachings.LEARN THE TRUTH!

Um, I'm just curious, where did you come up with this? I've read through the New Testament several times myself and can recall a few cases that don't match. Jesus spoke to the Samaritan woman at the well himself, and the apostles were led to speak to gentiles. It seems like it just doesn't fit the overall context to me, am I missing something?

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Have you read mathew 15-21?
21 Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon. 22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. 23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. 27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. 28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

The part you are missing is the truth.
Nowhere have people taught the truth of the bible that i can see.
people teach you that if you ove Jesus and accept Him as your saviour you go to heaven.Show me ONE passage where it says that.
Show me one passage where it says you can keep sinning and just keep believing and you are OK.JUST ONE!

uuumm John 3:16 If you really need me to explain it to you I will. But really use the brain God gave you, he did give you one didn't he?

Firstly you dont sound very Christian.secondly you choose the easy path.john says just believe and you will be OK.
The bible tells you that God will send confusion because He only wants the TRUE to follow Him.
Christ said HIMSELF that MUCH more was needed.In the passage you used Christ says more then just that.

Do you think that just believing will get you through?So you can sin as much as you like but as long as you believe it is ok?
the bible is clear.ONCE YOU KNOW THE TRUTH AND TURN BACK you are crucifying Christ again and there cannot be salvation a second time.Remember Lot's wife.

You have to worship Christ and God in word and deed.You must follow Him and practice it not just say it.

Without charity faith is nothing.
Do you really think that the prize on offer will be given away so freely?

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Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
Mat 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Mat 15:27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
Mat 15:28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
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What happened here? Jesus, Because of this Gentile's faith made her daughter whole that very hour. But she was Gentile? So why did Jesus grant her petition? Because of her great faith.
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Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Mat 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
Mat 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Mat 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
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What is John the Baptist saying here? Was he filled with the Holy Spirit?
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Luk 1:13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
Luk 1:14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
Luk 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
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As we can see, yes. So this is not merely the words of John, but of God Himself. Lets recap.

Jesus was sent but into the "lost sheep of the house of Israel." The woman was granted her request. John was filled with the Holy Ghost, And John also said that "God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."
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Lets continue:
So how is it that Gentiles are included? Why was the woman granted her request?

The Promise Granted Through Faith

Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Ok, but does this also include Gentiles?

Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all


So also as we see here, It is those who are "of the faith of Abraham"

Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
Gal 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
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So who are the true sons of Abraham? Those who are circumsized in the flesh? Or are the True sons of Abraham those whom are circumsized in their hearts?
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Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
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It is through Faith, of the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ that we are adopted into the family of God.

Yes, He was sent to save the lost sheep of the 12 tribes of Israel. As I have shown you, the True Sons of Abraham are those whom are Circumsized in their hearts, through Faith in the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.

We who are gentiles have been grafted on the Vine Which is Jesus Himself. Because of our Faith in the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.


So lets now take a look at your original post:

[quote=GraemeBell;23061]Too many people dont preach the truth and that is the reason why at the end very few make it.
Christ HIMSELF said that He was there only to save the lost sheep of the 12 tribes of Israel.
Jacob had 130 children or so.
There were also other people born.the 12 tribes come only from Jacobs 1st 10 children and 2 grandchildren.So not being of that blood probably makes an individual a 10,000 to 1 chance against being in the 12 tribes.
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I will conclude by reiterating the words of Paul:

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.



thonel

Greetings,
I really dont have the time for this today. You are of the salvation by works group a sad, disproven, disgraced group who wish to wrest the control of salvation from Christ and have control yourself, Jesus said from the cross "It is finished" nothing you can do to add to it as you so sadly attempt to do. But ok to ask someone to use their brain is not unchristian, if you wish to engage in a slinging match of insults I can well assure you you will come off second best. Who do you think you are? I am not afraid to enguage you at any level if thats what you really want. Now please address the real issue instead of hiding behind a cloud of smoke. You boldly and with much pride make statement about the bible which you fail to back up in any way. Here is a new thought for you just because you say it doesn't make it so. I take it that the passage you are referring to concerning turning back and so on, is the Hebrews 6 passage. My dear friend that passage has nothing whatsoever to do with the matter at hand, as you well know. If you want to talk about the security of salvation lets talk about that, you are clearly very confused. What bold statements you make without any thought whatsoever. Back up what you say with sound scripture not taken out of context or remain silent. The great call of the reformations was, "by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone" clearly you think you know better than these great men of God. No no I have much better things to do with my time than to talk about the nonsense you bring up, in fact I am much to busy to do this. Therefore I withdraw any offers I have made i am sure others will take up the mantle. If you had been willing to be sober and sensible I may have concidered talking to you, you are clearly not willing so I turn from you and leave you in the mess you are in. Sigh, back to work
May the Lord greatly bless you
May the wind be always at your back
In Christian love
Noolie

after that outburst and you still claim to be a follower of Christ?

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Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
Mat 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Mat 15:27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
Mat 15:28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
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What happened here? Jesus, Because of this Gentile's faith made her daughter whole that very hour. But she was Gentile? So why did Jesus grant her petition? Because of her great faith.
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Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Mat 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
Mat 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Mat 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
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What is John the Baptist saying here? Was he filled with the Holy Spirit?
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Luk 1:13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
Luk 1:14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
Luk 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
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As we can see, yes. So this is not merely the words of John, but of God Himself. Lets recap.

Jesus was sent but into the "lost sheep of the house of Israel." The woman was granted her request. John was filled with the Holy Ghost, And John also said that "God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."
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Lets continue:
So how is it that Gentiles are included? Why was the woman granted her request?

The Promise Granted Through Faith

Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Ok, but does this also include Gentiles?

Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all


So also as we see here, It is those who are "of the faith of Abraham"

Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
Gal 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
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So who are the true sons of Abraham? Those who are circumsized in the flesh? Or are the True sons of Abraham those whom are circumsized in their hearts?
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Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
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It is through Faith, of the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ that we are adopted into the family of God.

Yes, He was sent to save the lost sheep of the 12 tribes of Israel. As I have shown you, the True Sons of Abraham are those whom are Circumsized in their hearts, through Faith in the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.

We who are gentiles have been grafted on the Vine Which is Jesus Himself. Because of our Faith in the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.


So lets now take a look at your original post:

So where did I post anything inconsistant with what you wrote?
Where did I say anywhere the opposite of what you said?