Yasheema> Genesis 3:22 helps w/the small g thing
seekHm1st> Thank you
seekHm1st> God-fearing or godly
Yasheema> And the Lord God said man has now become like us
Yasheema> ...
seekHm1st> I could go into a rather lengthy explanation of that Old Testament passage.......
seekHm1st> Excellent Yasheema
seekHm1st> but suffice it to say..........
seekHm1st> The word there can also be translated fairly as.......judges
seekHm1st> So it becomes very important to make the distinction there
seekHm1st> especially in light of the rest of His sentence.
seekHm1st> "If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came
seekHm1st> (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
seekHm1st> do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?
Dacia> judges hmm
Dacia> gods means judges?
Yasheema> it makes sense
seekHm1st> it can in the lower case, and especially in the context of the men it was given to Dacia
seekHm1st> whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world,
seekHm1st> Who is Jesus talking about here?
Dacia> oh ok in the contextual thanks
Yasheema> himself
seekHm1st> Yes.
* Dacia nods
seekHm1st> Why?
Yasheema> He is the Word
seekHm1st> Yes
seekHm1st> So let's connect the dots...
seekHm1st> The Father sanctified the Son that He sent......
seekHm1st> Jesus was perfect......
seekHm1st> So what does it mean that He was sent and "sanctified"
Dacia> set apart? right?
seekHm1st> Did He need sanctification if He was God?
Dacia> only because
Dacia> he haad human elements?
Dacia> half man?
seekHm1st> Fully man
seekHm1st> Fully God
Dacia> oh
thonel> Immanuel
BeeLiever> yes amen
seekHm1st> But us ol' men are just sinful...right?
Yasheema> nods
Dacia> oh he was sent and already sanctified
Dacia> yes we are all sinful
BeeLiever> he was tempted as we are
seekHm1st> So how was it that Jesus did not have sin if He was fully man as well as fully God?
BeeLiever> but he led a perfect life
seekHm1st> How was His "man nature" sanctified?
Dacia> by God
BeeLiever> he overcame
seekHm1st> Yes
Dacia> through his own blood?
seekHm1st> How?
Yasheema> He was sanctified by the Holy Spirit because He was born of it
Dacia> the cross?
Dacia> he died?
seekHm1st> That's it!!
seekHm1st> lol
Dacia> for himselfand us?
BeeLiever> by knowing his truth
Dacia> so he died for himself too?
seekHm1st> That little old thing called......................
seekHm1st> His virgin birth.
thonel> yep
Dacia> oh yeah that.
Dacia>
thonel> remember original sin
Dacia> yes
seekHm1st> No one else on this planet ever WAS...or ever WILL be born that way again.
thonel> By his immaculate conception
thonel> He has no sin period.
* Dacia nods the word i was tryingt to find
Kiddo84> but he was tempted as we are
seekHm1st> Okay......now let's jump back to chapter 11 in John because I am running out of time lol
Dacia> amen , no one will ever come through a Virgin again because he truly is the son of GOD
Dacia> the true savior!
seekHm1st> Joh 11:9 Jesus answered, "Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world.
thonel> Amen
seekHm1st> Joh 11:10 "But if anyone walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him."
Dacia> amen!
Dacia> brb
seekHm1st> Joh 11:11 This He said, and after that He *said to them, "Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I go, so that I may awaken him out of sleep."
seekHm1st> Joh 11:12 The disciples then said to Him, "Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover."
seekHm1st> Joh 11:13 Now Jesus had spoken of his death, but they thought that He was speaking of literal sleep.
seekHm1st> "Klunk"
seekHm1st> The disciples get whacked with a nice 2x4
seekHm1st> lol
Jt> lol
seekHm1st> happens to me all the time
thonel> lol
Yasheema>
seekHm1st> Joh 11:15 and I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, so that you may believe; but let us go to him."
seekHm1st> Joh 11:16 Therefore Thomas, who is called Didymus, said to his fellow disciples, "Let us also go, so that we may die with Him."
seekHm1st> Joh 11:17 So when Jesus came, He found that he had already been in the tomb four days.
seekHm1st> Okay.......
seekHm1st> Lazarus was already dead.........
thonel> thats significant
honel> yes, the 4 days
seekHm1st> and in the tomb for 4 days
seekHm1st> Was he dead by now?
seekHm1st> Any doubts?
Jt> lol
BeeLiever> oops sorry
seekHm1st> And it was specifically why Jesus delayed.
seekHm1st> So that there could be no doubt.
thonel> yep
BeeLiever> i think that's the only place in the Bible you can find 'he stinketh'
seekHm1st> Yes
Yasheema> lol
seekHm1st> Okay.....now I am going to try to wrap this up
seekHm1st> We know what happens............
seekHm1st> Jesus journeys to Judea
seekHm1st> He finds His friend Lazarus there in the tomb
seekHm1st> and He calls the dead man, Lazarus
seekHm1st> OUT of his grave
seekHm1st> ALIVE
seekHm1st> Why had He said this would happen?
seekHm1st> Let's look back.
seekHm1st> Joh 11:4 But when Jesus heard this, He said, "This sickness is not to end in death, but for the glory of God, so that the Son of God may be glorified by it."
thonel> yes!
seekHm1st> This whole thing was not to end with Lazarus' death
BeeLiever> amen
seekHm1st> It was to end in glorification.......
seekHm1st> Whose?
thonel> Jesus's
seekHm1st> Yes
seekHm1st> And since Jesus said that it would glorify the "Son of God"............
seekHm1st> connect the dots once more
seekHm1st> "Son of God"
seekHm1st> Jesus
seekHm1st> Not hard to see at all is it.
seekHm1st> Is Jesus talking about the Father when He says "Son of God"?
seekHm1st> No.
tron> nope
seekHm1st> He is talking plainly about Himself.
CTR> So then was Lazarus a resurrected person?
Dacia> yes himself, plainly.
Dacia> yes
Dacia> he was a resurected person
seekHm1st> Jesus resurrected him from the dead CTR, yes.
CTR> ok
Dacia> it was also obvious by his stench
Dacia> lol
Dacia> after coming out of the tomb
seekHm1st> I hope the original aplogetic point I wanted to make clear has come out tonight
BeeLiever> yes seek
seekHm1st> And I hope that when you meet someone who challenges the Sonship and Godhood of Jesus........
Dacia> yes thank you
seekHm1st> That you may be able to share these passages with them.
Dacia> i'm going to print out some of this
seekHm1st> So that they might be able to see it clearly too.
seekHm1st> Let's go ahead and close in prayer.
Yasheema> very helpful indeed
Dacia> yes thank you so very much SEek
seekHm1st> You're welcome.
seekHm1st> Father in heaven, we bow our heads before You.
seekHm1st> We are humbled by the majesty...the beauty of Your wisdom and Your plan.
seekHm1st> We cannot see everything as You do....
seekHm1st> But we can overwhelmingly see that You love us.
seekHm1st> And......
seekHm1st> we are thankful.
Dacia> yes we are! we praise you Jesus!
seekHm1st> So thankful.
Dacia> yes we are!
Dacia> praise you Jesus
Jt> Thank you Jesus
Dacia> yes thank you
seekHm1st> We thank You for sending Your precious Son to us....
Jt> Thank you Jesus
seekHm1st> Sanctified and perfect.
thonel> Thank-you Lord
seekHm1st> Tempted in all things as we are.
Dacia> yes sanctified and perfiect!
Jt> Amen
seekHm1st> But Who in perfect purity ....
seekHm1st> and in perfect grace........
seekHm1st> sinned not.
seekHm1st> And Who walked willingly..........
Dacia> praise you for who you are , Jesus
Yasheema> glory to God
Dacia> and all you've done
Jt> You're beautiful Lord
seekHm1st> knowingly to that Cross to suffer so horribly..........
seekHm1st> for us.
BeeLiever> yes Lord thank You.
Dacia> yes.
Dacia> thank you>
Dacia> for giving your life
seekHm1st> To die and to rise from the dead.......
Dacia> for us Jesus
thonel> Thank-you Jesus
Jt> Thank you Lord
seekHm1st> So that we might know Him.
Yasheema> Alleluia!
Yasheema> ty
Jt> Thank you for your salvations Father
seekHm1st> And have eternal life in Him.
Dacia> and you have prooved you are God, even if i had no faith, i think you are proof, i know you are JESUS Christ!
Dacia> my savior and my Lord, KIng of KINGS
Jt> Yes Lord
seekHm1st> To be in the eternal presence of Almighty God.
Dacia> the only way
Dacia> yes.
seekHm1st> And it is in His matchless name that we pray
seekHm1st> Amen
thonel> Amen
BeeLiever> Amen
Jt> AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!
Bethel> amen
tron> Amen
Kiddo84> amen
Yasheema> Amen!
JeSsIcA> amen!
Sam> Amen.
seekHm1st> Thank you all for being here folks.
Dodi> amen

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