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Old 11-17-2009, 12:32 AM
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Dear friends, greetings and blessings in the Holy Name of our Lord Jesus. I trust that this letter finds your soul and self prospering in Christ our Lord. These are times of un-restricted freedom, where men and women can behave and believe what they please. We have those that no longer believe in the works of the Holy Spirit (Acts 19:11), Divine healing (James 5:14), miracles (Matthew 10:8), glorification of the saints (2 Cor 3:18, 1 John 3:2). Such people have a semblance of godliness, but deny its power (2 Timothy 3:5). In the name of free and open mindedness, many churches tolerate and even espouse some very decadent life styles that are abominable to the Lord (1 Cor 6:9-10, Rev 22:15). Even if one hasn’t subscribed to these ungodly life styles, one is just as guilty of sin for tolerating it (Rev 2:20), and not openly denouncing the habit. We have government leaders and supreme courts openly desecrating God’s holiness by legitimizing such life styles. Such authorities may themselves be saved, but it may be as if just escaping the fires of hell (1 Cor 3:15).


There are some who have given into the false teaching of prosperity as being the true sign of God’s blessing and favor (however, God can and does bless us with wealth to make a difference in this world (Job 8:7, Psalm 12:1-3, Prov 15:6, Psalm 37:26)), when the truth is that worldly riches only draw us away from God (Matthew 6:21, Luke 16:13). Some have also gone to the extreme and given themselves to all kinds of false signs and wonders from Satan (2 Thessalonians 2:9). People have stopped believing in the bible to be the word of God (2 Timothy 3:16), and have resorted to psychology and sociology (1 Cor 1:22, 1 Cor 2:6)). Although debates and arguments amongst Christians are a sign of carnality (1 Cor 3:3), a healthy Spirit filled quest for scriptural understanding is essential to ferret out the true essence of the gospel (1 Cor 11:19). The issue then boils down to not whether one believes that Jesus is the Son of God (John 1:29, Matthew 16:15-16, John 11:27), but if one is completely Spirit filled and Spirit led (Romans 8:14) to know nothing but the opinion of Jesus Christ (1 Cor 2:2, 1 Cor 2:16, Romans 12:2) about heaven, hell and life eternal.

The text for my letter today is just one verse from Luke 11:23. The Lord Jesus had just been accused of being demon possessed (Luke 14-17) by some in the crowd who couldn’t distinguish between the Son of God and the son of Beelzebub (makes one wonder if they could at least tell the difference between a man and a mouse!?). It is in this regard that the Lord Jesus makes this incisive statement; we are either with Him or against Him. There are two personalities that speak in such absolutes, one is the devil, and the other is the Son of God. Now we know that to be with Jesus is to follow Him, partake in His sufferings and so forth (Luke 22:28). Most people don’t have a problem with this faithfulness aspect. The trouble comes in when one has to change one’s opinion and thinking to suit that of Jesus. There were many who wouldn’t follow Christ because of His unpalatable teaching (John 6:66), and of course there was also the faithfulness issue when the going got tough (Mark 14:50). The carnal mind is hostile to God and will not submit to God’s law (Romans 8:7), and it is this renewing of the mind that poses a hurdle to many.

The Lord Jesus always saw things from God’s perspective (John 12:49). Although as a Man He had a mind of His own, He always sought God’s will and obeyed it, even when it contradicted His natural desires (Luke 22:42). Being a man, its quite possible that He was drawn to that faithful and possibly beautiful woman named Mary Magdalene who was one of the few that was true to the end, albeit from a distance (Luke 23::49, if that is so, makes one wonder what kind of loyalty that was!?). Yet, He remained holy and true to God Almighty till the end. This Man never even touched that beautiful woman (John 20:17)!

Christ has set us an example as to how to obey God’s word and will and not be free and open thinking regarding it to suit our purposes. Mankind has been doing pretty much whatever they will, but will be brought to judgment at the end (Ecclesiastes 11:9, Ecclesiastes 12:14). Human beings have a free will and are entitled to their opinion, but will have to answer to the Son of God on judgment day (Acts 17:31). How about you friend? Which side of the fence are you on? Remember, one cannot partly follow Jesus. You are either completely for Him or against Him. Choose this day whom you will serve (Joshua 24:15). I hope that you will choose life. Amen.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:14 AM
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Being a man, its quite possible that He was drawn to that faithful and possibly beautiful woman named Mary Magdalene who was one of the few that was true to the end, albeit from a distance (Luke 23::49, if that is so, makes one wonder what kind of loyalty that was!?). Yet, He remained holy and true to God Almighty till the end. This Man never even touched that beautiful woman (John 20:17)!
Christ was not just a man he was 100% man and 100% God all at the same time. While the rest seems right your statement painting Christ as a man with out acknowledging his being God poisons all of your teaching in the original post. As this false teaching of yours poisons all your posts. It is in every one of your posts that i have ever read. Saying that Christ is a man and denying his fully divine from the beginning nature is to deny God him self. To say as you have previously that we to will become divine just like Christ is a insult to Christ as well as a blasphemous lie! I also realize fully that you will never respond to my post but that is fine by me. I do not post here just to attempt to correct you and get you to see the truth of scripture. While that is part of it it is not the all of it. I also post to make sure that others are clued in to your false teachings and that they are not biblical.I personally will not and cannot sit by while you put forth such false teachings.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:40 PM
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The issue then boils down to not whether one believes that Jesus is the Son of God (John 1:29, Matthew 16:15-16, John 11:27), but if one is completely Spirit filled and Spirit led (Romans 8:14) to know nothing but the opinion of Jesus Christ (1 Cor 2:2, 1 Cor 2:16, Romans 12:2) about heaven, hell and life eternal.
It took some effort to finish reading your post after the above statement, but I managed. If one does not believe that Jesus is the Son of God, one cannot be Spirit-filled and led, because not only does one not understand the gospel, but one is believing in a false Christ. This is important enough to the Father that He will see to it that every knee will one day bow to the Son---as God. He warned us that the world would be full of false Christs. That is what you are teaching my friend--a false Christ.

You know mukk_in, you seem to have a general and mechanical grasp of the Scriptures, but beyond that you always demonstrate a proclivity for heretical biblical inaccuracy. You really should look deeply into your heart, be honest with yourself and take stock of why you are writing these entries of yours. I doubt that you will reply, but you should do this nonetheless whether you choose to reply or not. You are spreading false blasphemous teachings that could mislead others, and you should in no way expect that God will overlook this.

Your entries are always the best and most skillful of what Satan has to offer, namely----truth mixed with falsehoods. It is what he has been using ever since he slithered into the Garden of Eden. Right now, you are as deceived as Eve was, and plunging as headlong into sin as Adam did, and you will remain that way unless you seriously decide to make an honest biblical appraisal of what you have written. If I were you...I would petition the server owner or a moderator to remove just about every single one of your posts. They are wretched. At first glance they might not appear to be, but upon closer inspection and consideration, they come straight out from the pit.

I hope you will consider this in the spirit in which it is written. That is to say, I care about your soul, and if you do not change...you will lose it. I know that others will say that I have a lot of nerve saying that to you, and that I don't know your heart. They are right. I don't know your heart, but I have read what you have written, and I have enough nerve to care about your soul to write to you despite what others believe about what I say.

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That's handy for you to enter into your post, and it would mean something if you were a Christian, but you are not following the Jesus of the Bible. You are making up a god to suit yourself. It's called idolatry.

Consider what the Master said to the Pharisees in John 9:41 "Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, 'We see,' your sin remains."

You aren't blind, mukk_in, so I encourage you to set your eyes and your heart upon the true Christ, the divine Son of the Living God. I hope that you will repent of these blasphemous writings and throw yourself upon the mercy and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible. It is only through Him that you will obtain grace.

It is the peace that only He provides that I hope for you,

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Old 11-18-2009, 07:28 AM
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Anyone who starts their post with the words:

Dear friends, greetings and blessings in the Holy Name of our Lord Jesus. I trust that this letter finds your soul and self prospering in Christ our Lord.

is most likely a troll. It is just a ruse to get others to believe that the person is a christian and is wishing them the best....can smell them a mile away!
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Anyone who starts their post with the words:

Dear friends, greetings and blessings in the Holy Name of our Lord Jesus. I trust that this letter finds your soul and self prospering in Christ our Lord.

is most likely a troll. It is just a ruse to get others to believe that the person is a christian and is wishing them the best....can smell them a mile away!

Troll not exactly. Mukk in is here to try and teach his own brand of pseudo Christianity. In other words hes worse than just a troll coming to the boards to stir up trouble he is here with a mission and that is to gain converts. The reason he posted about Christians debating being carnal was a jab at me. See i have called him out many times publicly both in chat and here on the forums. He is to afraid to reply to my accusations and try and prove me wrong so instead of "always being ready to give a answer" He backpedals and hides.

As Christians we are called to be ready to give a answer the bible tells us this it also tells us hat scripture is good for ....... reproof and correction.

2 Timothy 3:15-17 (King James Version)

15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


The word reproof means
A answer that corrects. So the verses above actually say it is profitable for correction twice in 2 different ways. This shows this is something important.
It then goes on to say for instruction in righteousness which can be said to mean right or correct. So in effect it is actually saying the same thing 3 times. In context when the bible repeats something 3 times its following old Hebrew textual rules these textual rules dictate that when something is repeated 3 times there is nothing more so. "holy holy holy is the Lord God almighty" Nothing is more holy than Lord (God the Son aka Jesus Christ) God (The father).

So what we see in my examples is instruction to correct to give a answer which me you and kabar have all done and which mukk_in refuses to do. If his position is defensible then why does he not defend it? I put forth this. He can not defend his position from the biblical text so he avoids direct confrontation.


Note i tried to get a reference from this site for reproof but it would not load properly at the time i will if possible edit this post at a later time to include the reference for the word reproof as was used during the time of the kjv bible and the time leading up to it.

Germanic Lexicon Project

Feel free to make use of the site once you search reproof look for answer that corrects in the pages text. This site is quite complex and not the easiest to understand or use so put on the thinking and logic caps

I promise this though once you figure it out its well worth it.
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