Yes a few times throughout Matthew mark Luke and john its mentioned as well as after.

im only going to post a few of the refs as there are 37 references to just the word crucified in relation to Christ. Any text in red is christs own words

matt 26:2Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

Matt 27:22-40 Highlighted in bold blue the words crucify or crucified
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22Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.
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23And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
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24When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
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25Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
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26Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.
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27Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers.
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28And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.
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29And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!
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30And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
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31And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
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32And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his cross.
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33And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull,
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34They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.
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35And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
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36And sitting down they watched him there;
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37And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
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38Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left.
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39And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads,
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40And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.

Matthew 27:50
50Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
(my comments)
Yielded up the ghost aka spirit in this case means he died at that moment

matthew 27:57-60 (the taking down of his body from the cross and entombment
57When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus’ disciple:
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58He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered.
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59And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,
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60And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.

I would say read the entirety of Matthew chapter 27 and 28.

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If I may; imo, we would be closer to the truth if we focused on the spiritual meaning of being crucified...what does it symbolize?

Jim

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in my understanding, crucifixion in the spiritual sense is that Christ died on the cross for the sins of humanity and was resurrected.

by definition, the term means to die on the cross. if u are hang on the cross but did not die, its not crucifixion.

pls correct me if im wrong.

He was hung on the cross and died on the cross and rose 3 days later as was said in the verses i posted

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Re: "... crucifixion in the spiritual sense is that Christ died on the cross for the sins of humanity..."

Actually, He only paid for the sins of His people...the Elect children of God; keeping in mind that He is indeed God and was God in the flesh who dwelt among humanity, ergo, Emmanuel, God with us. Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

It is only God who who could pay for the sins of His people and the payment had to be immeasurably great to justify eternal salvation for the Elect. While on the Cross the Lord was forsaken by God the Father...think about that for a moment. Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

While on the Cross (which was certainly made from a tree) the Lord was accursed...God was forsaking God. So then, imo, the horrific crucifixion which the Lord experienced was nothing compared to being forsaken by His Father...now that had to really hurt! As I see it, it hurt so much that it was infinitely more equivalent to eternal damnation for all of humanity.

Deuteronomy 21:22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree: 23 His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God) that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

Thank you for the question, igliojack. I'm not sure that I've done it justice. What happened spiritually on the Cross if pretty heavy stuff.

Jim

Hey all, just some responses to Nova's and Baerchild's post -

1) From the verses that were qouted by Nova and Baerchild-

Nova has correctly given references of Jesus account between the time he was caught all the way to his burial in the sepulchre. Baerchild then gave references of what happened to Jesus on the cross.

If we analyse, 2 things that were quite blatant and obvious are:

a)It required the Jews to take him with the help of the Romans for him to be crucified.

b) Jesus was asking God why was he forsaken.

The thing to note here is that Jesus has never ever volunteered to be crucified. Why i say this is important is because if he really have this notion of having to come down as a human and having to die to pay for the sins of mankind, then the least he could do, is to make it easy for everyone.

But according to the biblical account, did he make it easy??? The answer is a big NO. Here are some points:

- Thousands of years has to pass for mankind to carry this sin before he had to come down to die
- In Genesis Chapter 6, The great flood according to the bible killed everyone creature on earth except for 8 people (Noah, Noah's wife, Shem, Hem, Japhet and their 3 wives). Isn't that enough atonement???
- In the Gospels, Jesus instructed his disciples to arm themselves to be ready before he was arrested.
- In the Gospels, we read that he tried to preach to the Jews, his own people but they cared not and accused him of being an impostor.
- In the Gospels, we have never come across any where which Jesus say that in order to pay for the sins of mankind, a God needs to die
- In the Gospels, we have never come across anywhere which Jesus say that a god needs to come down as a human being to die, to pay or the sins of mankind.
- In the Gospels, we have never come across anywhere which Jesus say that there is no salvation for Adam, eve, Abel, Cain, Moses, Job, Noah, David, Solomon, etc.

Jesus had never at anytime preached anything like that. If Jesus in his lifetime never preached those, then how could anyone during his time know of the idea of orginal sin???

2) From Baerchild - Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel

There are 2 things to note about this verse -

a) The 1st time this verse was seen, is in Isaiah 7:14. Biblical scholars now tell us that the word "virgin" isn't supposed to be there. It is a mistranslated word from the hebrew word - "almah". In the hebrew dictionary - almah = young woman. bethulah = virgin. Both the verses in the bible used "almah" and not "bethulah".

b) The verse is a supposed prophecy of Jesus. To actually see if it is a fulfilled one, you have to check if Jesus was actually called Emmanuel at any time. Again, the answer is a big NO. If you say that you can't take the name Emmanuel literally, there will be no evidence then for that verse to be attributed to Jesus. Because we see now that it described a young woman instead of a virgin.

Again, i would like to take this opportunity to apologize to any christians, if in my dicussion i've offended anyone. I think I am only following what the bible said in Isaiah 1:18 -

Isaiah 1:18
Let us reason together

on a note, id like some clarifications, one of my fren told me that during the second coming, Jesus Christ would never have heard of the word christians nor heard about the religion called christianity.

if im not wrong, Jesus himself wasnt called Christ.
also, Jesus never ate pig.

care to discuss what would happened during the second coming if u happen to see Jesus and called him Christ or offered him the flesh of ham?

On the crucifixion- and the resurrection:

Majority of biblical scholars agree Jesus was a real being.. so that is to begin with.

They also agree that he was definitely crucified- the way he was crucified was consistent with how others were crucified.. the accounts of how he was crucified were detailed, gory and his crucifixion was predicted long before it happened by Jesus Himself and prophets.

Now... did he died on the cross.. well the method of Roman crucifixion though not exactly perfect medical science.. was more than effective. Jesus was lashed with a whip of cat-0-nine tails.. that shredded his skin.. this would cause blood loss from his body..he had a crown of thorns forced onto his head that would have caused much blood loss from his head. Both of these acts could cause pain that can kill some people.

Most people crucified this way were dead before they got to the cross.. that fact Jesus wasn't quite dead before he got there... shows how strong he was, and he had control over the right timing and fulfillment of scripture- as God in human skin.

Now.. he was also placed on the cross in a position that only allows the person to breathe for a certain amount of time.. because they would have to lift themselves up to breathe each time.. and in doing so.. cause them to sink further into a position of being unable to breathe any longer.

So.. he is already brutally beaten to the point of most people normally dieing from that beating.. and also nailed to the cross on top of that..

Then he is placed in a position that is purposely done so over time he can no longer breathe.

When Jesus is satisfied with the right time to die.. he then says 'it is finished'.. scripture fulfilled.. events all happened that need to.. and then dies.. leaving His body- going to do further work..

At this time.. his body is dead.. and to make sure of this..after all the beating.. and the agony of the cross itself.. he is speared in the side by a Roman guard to make sure he is dead... and what comes out?

blood and water..

seems strange maybe.. but blood and water is what should come out from a medical condition where the lungs become filled with liquid from the act of Jesus trying to force himself to breathe on the cross. Blood comes out to.. because he has only just died. It is a medical state of death that doctors know about where both fluids effuse from the body.

So ya.. he is dead..

Now.. he gets put in the tomb

3 days later.. He ain't there!

Was his body stolen? No.. cos the disciples had no motive to steal it.. and were in hiding and dispersed because they believed their messiah was dead. Also the case can be made for the Roman guards not allowing anyone in or out of the tomb- since in that day.. getting caught off guard on duty was punishable by death by Caesar.

So maybe.. he somehow survived the cross.. even tho it is pretty clear he could not have survived it.. and been revived in the cool air of the tomb..

well.. then how did he have the strength, in the wounded, near death condition he would have to have been in.. to move a big rock guarding the tomb... and get past the guards?

Not a chance!

And then supposing.. even tho this is getting really unlikely.. impossible really.. he did get out..

How could the disciples claim his resurrection if he were just this wounded.. mostly dead.. beaten.. bruised man?

So.. He dead at the cross.. and dead in the tomb.

NOW

the accounts of Him being risen again-- are based on passages of scripture that are considered some of the earliest pieces of manuscript evidence in the entire New Testament!

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the Scriptures:
1Co 15:5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
1Co 15:6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
1Co 15:7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

The words in this passage.. were handed down to Paul by another source.. and Paul wrote this at a time very close to Jesus' life, death and resurrection anyway..

A few trusted scholars put the original source that Paul got the information from.. to be written as close as 2 years after Jesus' life, death, and ressurection! That is nothing!

Paul is writing about accounts of seeing Jesus-- by many many people.. when those same people are alive and other people alive who can say whether what he was writing was not right!

No legendary development here..

So

1) Jesus really lived
2) Jesus really crucified
3) Jesus really died
4) Jesus' tomb-- empty after 3 days
5) Accounts of Jesus rising again.. are as reliable as the accounts that he lived and died..

I'm sure this has been posted many times, but this seems like a good place to post it again. Simon Greenleaf set out to disprove Christianity in a "court of law" type way and wound up on his knees crying out to God. Google "Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf". For those who have not read it, it is a wonderful presentation even if quite long as to the legitimacy of Jesus' resurrection. When I was trying to sort out the validity of the Bible, I found this quite helpful.