hey there,

droll here....some comments to the topic at hand -

is it a cruciFIXION or a cruciFICTION???

1) let me just clear the way ahead with this verse from the bible -

King James Bible (KJV)
1 Chorinthians 15:14

If Christ is not risen from he dead, then our preaching is in vain, and also your faith is also vain.

Saint Paul who wrote this book, also mentioned tat the crucifixion, if its not real, then theres no christianity.

2) similar to some myths???

Let us just take a moment to probably reach out and read other accounts of mythologies concerning the anthropomorphism of how God, in his divine presence, came down as humans and had to be sacrificed and resurrected.

- Horus, the Egyptian Sun god was crucified and resurrected after 3 days (from Egyptian Book of the dead)

- Krishna, the Hindu god was crucified on a tree and was resurrected (from Hindu Bagavad-gita)

- Thammuz of Syria who was sacrificed to atone for sins and was resurrected (from the poem Persika)

- Prometheus, the Greek Titan was crucified and have up the ghost (from the poem Theogony)

there's actually a list of deities being crucified to atone for some sins others did. There appears to be one in probably every culture and mythology about tat.

3) the idea of original sin

i would just like to hightlight that the idea of crucifixion is due to wat adam and eve did back in the Eden days. Because of the consumption of the forbidden fruit, mankind is condemned. And it has to take God Almighty, for probably thousands of years to make a pagan decision to come down as a man to get born in a stable, grew up as a carpenter, life live til 30, accused as an impostor by his own people he was sent to, got betrayed by one of his disciple (Judas), went into hiding, prepared to fight, got caught, abandoned by his own disciples, shackled as well as tortured, brought around by romans and jews to get paraded, not trialled for watever he was charged for, got nailed to a cross, got crucified for a few hours, pronounced dead not by any physicians, was given the funeral rites, buried or rather put in a sephelchre, resurrected (i thought God are immortal) after 3 days and was eventually ascended to heaven. All this happened, because someone ate a fruit he and she wasn't supposed to eat.

i mean, tat has to take tremendous faith to believe in, no offense.

4) from nova - "non biblical records state that a man named Jesus was crucified.."

would you be so nice as to show this non biblical records. you have to excuse me coz im not really fluent in anthropology.

5) from nova - "was a preferred method of execution up until i think 800 to 1100 years ago ...Mohammad would have possibly witnessed a couple people crucified in his own time as if i recall he lived in the 600s ad....

i dont really get the point you are making on this one but in the book, "History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman empire by Edward Gibbon, it describes Emperor Constantine 1 abolished crucifixion in 337 ad. It was also not a popular form of punishment in Arabia since and only resurface until the Umayad's rule in the middle ages.

6) from nova - "I have faith that yes Jesus did die and rise again exactly as the bible says he did"

The biblical accounts in the bible describing the resurrection portrays jesus to be hiding. He was dressed or disguised as a gardener after he was "resurrected" (a). If he was trully dead, the bible did say u can't die twice (b). So wat was the charade of disguise all about???

(a) - Gospel of John 20:15 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away


Wow, its been such a long post....sorry its tat long....didnt meant it to be. neways, those are my 2 cents.

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